Steve
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So this is basically my intro thread.
I have been a programmer for 12 years, started messing about with 'IM' in 2008, joined BlackHatWorld and started playing with massive spam generation.
Had fun, made a few quid ranking squidoo pages with clickbank products, but never really had a strategy and could always earn a lot more money programming than spamming shit.
I found WF in 2009, found the content and advice a whole world apart from BHW, so decided to join up, and pretty much immediately got banned for asking bb_wolfe for a review copy of a wordpress local directory pluggin.
Undeterred i signed back up with a new handle and got stuck into mass link spam again, writing some personal use supplementary tools to work with the major spam tools of the time (scrapebox in particular), such as list dedupping, spintax gerneration etc.
I created a bunch of shoddy uk based EMD's based on boring ass topics (picked entirely because an emd was available - think mattress protectors, microwave ovens etc) , wrote some half assed content, signed up to affiliate window and something called easycontentunits, created a bunch of spun web2.0s and blasted the living shit out of them with spam.
This actually created more money than the squidoo gig, but nothing compared to programming.
I then bought a wordpress plugin called wptweetbomb, created a bunch of sites with it and let it beat the living shit out of twitter with a lot of twitter accounts.
This actually worked amazingly well, the sites where pure autoblog spun crap, but got hundreds of thousands of visits between them. I rather stupidly put up adsense, and make a decent chunk of change until one of the sites ripped content from someone who filled a dmca with google, and bam my adsense account was dead. No other networks came close in payout, and as all the sites where total shit content, display adds where the only option. Eventually the plugin author went awol, the sites stopped working and that was that.
Since spam clearly worked for ranking, but i wasnt making progress with the important bit (how to actually make money from said rankings, retain vistors etc), i decided to sell spam to others.
I created software to automate spam as much as i could, and sold the usual 2011 era packages (200,000 blog comments, 10,000 wiki links etc etc) until 2012 rolled around, naive bulk spam pretty much died, and i lost interest.
Its now 2017 and i am getting fed up with my earning being linked to the number of hours i can work, i have built up a lot of local business contacts, and i am about to head back into marketing, with the aim of having clients on monthly contracts.
I am not an arsehole, so i will be starting a project of my own to test the huge amount of theory available before i attempt to charge anyone for my efforts, with a focus on local SEO (since that is what i intend to charge for once i am confident i can deliver).
I am unsure whether to create a dummy business sites(eg joes pluming), and attempt to rank it, or go with more resellable (but less representative of my intended customers) lead gen site, so if any local seo guys in her have some input that would be usefull.
I am also unsure what kind of timeframe local (or indeed any) seo takes now days, so any insite there would also be great
I have been a programmer for 12 years, started messing about with 'IM' in 2008, joined BlackHatWorld and started playing with massive spam generation.
Had fun, made a few quid ranking squidoo pages with clickbank products, but never really had a strategy and could always earn a lot more money programming than spamming shit.
I found WF in 2009, found the content and advice a whole world apart from BHW, so decided to join up, and pretty much immediately got banned for asking bb_wolfe for a review copy of a wordpress local directory pluggin.
Undeterred i signed back up with a new handle and got stuck into mass link spam again, writing some personal use supplementary tools to work with the major spam tools of the time (scrapebox in particular), such as list dedupping, spintax gerneration etc.
I created a bunch of shoddy uk based EMD's based on boring ass topics (picked entirely because an emd was available - think mattress protectors, microwave ovens etc) , wrote some half assed content, signed up to affiliate window and something called easycontentunits, created a bunch of spun web2.0s and blasted the living shit out of them with spam.
This actually created more money than the squidoo gig, but nothing compared to programming.
I then bought a wordpress plugin called wptweetbomb, created a bunch of sites with it and let it beat the living shit out of twitter with a lot of twitter accounts.
This actually worked amazingly well, the sites where pure autoblog spun crap, but got hundreds of thousands of visits between them. I rather stupidly put up adsense, and make a decent chunk of change until one of the sites ripped content from someone who filled a dmca with google, and bam my adsense account was dead. No other networks came close in payout, and as all the sites where total shit content, display adds where the only option. Eventually the plugin author went awol, the sites stopped working and that was that.
Since spam clearly worked for ranking, but i wasnt making progress with the important bit (how to actually make money from said rankings, retain vistors etc), i decided to sell spam to others.
I created software to automate spam as much as i could, and sold the usual 2011 era packages (200,000 blog comments, 10,000 wiki links etc etc) until 2012 rolled around, naive bulk spam pretty much died, and i lost interest.
Its now 2017 and i am getting fed up with my earning being linked to the number of hours i can work, i have built up a lot of local business contacts, and i am about to head back into marketing, with the aim of having clients on monthly contracts.
I am not an arsehole, so i will be starting a project of my own to test the huge amount of theory available before i attempt to charge anyone for my efforts, with a focus on local SEO (since that is what i intend to charge for once i am confident i can deliver).
I am unsure whether to create a dummy business sites(eg joes pluming), and attempt to rank it, or go with more resellable (but less representative of my intended customers) lead gen site, so if any local seo guys in her have some input that would be usefull.
I am also unsure what kind of timeframe local (or indeed any) seo takes now days, so any insite there would also be great
