Introductions Thread

@bbbyet - some ideas are posted
I use to give these out, no one ever did them. So I stopped.

They are gold, and I can't believe nobody did......

Maybe because there are not "sexy ideas", but the concept is amazing to make some money, learn and move on.

I am listening podcast #1 right now......and now I can get why the title
Why some make the jump to successful entrepreneur and some don't :evil:
 
I do agree with the things @eliquid said. BUT don't let that discourage you from starting a site. You have had prior experience with SEO and content sites. Branching into a new field will only cost you more time, which will be a scarcity with your 9-5.
It's nearly 2018. So please stop thinking about these small, crappy amazon affiliate sites. With the way and speed the internet is changing this isn't a solid foundation.

Why are you being so modest about your income goal? You got to be effing hungry! Make it $20,000.

Here are some actionable tips if you still intend to roll with a content site:
1. Raise your income goal to make working on it worthwhile
2. Pick a vertical/niche big enough to support your income goal
3. Build a brand. Don't just do SEO. Organic traffic should be the end product of your marketing efforts. If you have chosen the right niche there should be an active community. Get involved with it.
4. Diversify your monetization methods. Diversify your traffic sources.
It's just a matter of time until the next facebook algorithm, google algorithm or amazon fba crackdown (just a wild speculation from my side...) rolls out.
Don't rely on the mercy of one company. Even if you have helped them build THEIR empire, they will take you out without batting an eye. So be sure to spread your tentacles.

And as with everything in life, success demands hard work. Jumping from one project to the other hoping it will require less work while yielding a bigger return is a mistake imo. They will all require HARD work.
If you ask for a lot, you will have to give a lot. And don't be afraid to ask for a lot.
 
Hi everyone,

The way I found this lovely forum is from one of your top contributing members. (who has the same name on another forum) I'm not going to name the forum or the user. Anyhow, I took a peak and discovered a solid forum of like-minded people.

This grind over the last 2-3 years is the best thing that ever happened to me. At first, I tried every method under the sun. Eventually, I pieced together the underlying fundamentals of direct response and offering massively skewed value that I am positioned as the "go-to" for. Experience combined with Dan Kennedy and Mj Demarco has given me many of the pieces of the puzzle...

For the next few weeks I'll probably lay low and observe things on here. Sure am glad to be here.

Have a good one,
ppc-agent
 
Hi Everyone,

After lurking around the forum for the past few months and registering some months ago, I decided to create my first thread here. I've learnt a lot from this forum and I'm now trying to take action towards creating a successful online business.

Starting from here, I'll start participating in the forums and get into the grind too :smile:

My favorite authors on this platform is Ccarter, Ryuzaki, Tavin, Built and a few others. In fact, I recently read a kickass reply from Ccarter to another builder who was trying to build a site without promoting it. I realized I was in the same situation and need to get out of my soft balls.

I have a new project now. Just a small site that just recently started getting traction.

Right now, I've gathered some forums (my niche is very narrow so not much forum) and I'm going to be playing the game with them in addition to Quora and Reddit. I've also mastered the art of blog commenting. I was able to rank a client website majorly through high quality blog comments. The site now has several #1 listings and is climbing the serps for thousands/month competitive terms.

So I'm going to be doing blog commenting a lot aside from traffic leaking. I'm also going to be learning alot about traffic leaking (I've been this from different places but haven't been taking action).

Thanks for reading. Guess I need to get to work.
 
Glad to hear you're getting use out of the forum and more importantly that you're being proactive about marketing your site. Going where the people are and making them aware of your existence is the fastest way of doing SEO too. It's getting links and social shares, the ones that count the most.

Best of luck and let us know when we can help. I'm interested in hearing about your progress over the coming months/years. Maybe consider a Laboratory thread?
 
Hi guys,

For 8+ years I'm trying to establish a good internet website and make money out of it and it all fails
is it a karma or I'm just so bad in this, I don't know.

I'm a bit tired of this computers really.

I feel like a failure, because even though I'm working hard on my site,
out of a sudden it just gets messed up after upgrade.

I just upgraded my Debian 6 to 9 and have a downtime, besides that I have one week down time my site is now 100 000 positions down in alexa siteinfo, I just don't know how to continue.

Best
hipo
 
Hello All,

I'm a newbie to the site. I found Builders Society through research and stumbled onto a link to one of ccarters Boot Camp articles, and after grazing through posts for about a week decided to sign up.

I'm new to this type of marketing and have never dealt with SEO, my background is largely in Social Media, where I've been an early adopter since the beginning. I worked for 15 years in Electronic Music promotions, starting off back in the days of the Chicago underground where it was necessary to flyer outside clubs at 2-4 in the morning and niche forums to connect to an audience with any interest in the music. When MySpace came into existence it was like I'd struck gold. Suddenly we could build a network to anyone interested in the talent we were booking and invite them to join our community in real time. I dove in headfirst and never looked back.

Now I have transitioned into working with a startup creative agency alongside a couple of veteran producers from huge agencies who are looking to take a new approach, creating a hybrid of what is still effective in traditional media, SEO, and organic feeling social media development. I am very excited to become part of the BuSo community and learn from you all and begin to apply Traffic Leak strategies in my own work.

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Nice to have you aboard.

MySpace was nuts. You could talk to celebrities like normal people and they were excited to engage like that, because it was new and nobody had social media managers at that point.

I think something that could be useful to you, if you're still working in the music promotion business, is to use platforms where there are a ton of people that let you create contained spaces around your topic. So you can have a Facebook page about a local electronic music scene, you can have a sub-Reddit for it, etc. The nice thing is you can control it in it's entirety and then use the platform itself to be discovered even more (using traffic leaks and their built-in PPC marketing, etc).

Good luck. I'm eager to hear more about what you're getting into marketing-wise and how it goes over time!
 
Nice to have you aboard.

MySpace was nuts. You could talk to celebrities like normal people and they were excited to engage like that, because it was new and nobody had social media managers at that point.

I think something that could be useful to you, if you're still working in the music promotion business, is to use platforms where there are a ton of people that let you create contained spaces around your topic. So you can have a Facebook page about a local electronic music scene, you can have a sub-Reddit for it, etc. The nice thing is you can control it in it's entirety and then use the platform itself to be discovered even more (using traffic leaks and their built-in PPC marketing, etc).

Good luck. I'm eager to hear more about what you're getting into marketing-wise and how it goes over time!

Thanks for the warm welcome. That is in fact, exactly what I was doing, as soon as the functionality existed. On FB, for example, the day they opene we started with Groups, and then went to Pages and toggled back and forth, depending on the functionality each feature allowed.

I'm out of the music game now, I was in the dance music industry largely for the community and it's (d)evolved to a corporate machine for the most part. I tried to stick it out but it was sucking my soul dry. I don't want to use my skills and talents for no other purpose than to capitalize on people's craft for the purpose of making rich guys rich. I want to grow businesses that help propel our society into a brighter future.
 
I want to give constructive advice but it's obvious you have not gone through the crash course.

Go do that.
 
Looks like this is where all the old wickedfire guys have came to.

Hey all,

Surprised to have never seen this community before!

Trying to get a little more social - one of my weaknesses - probably is why I never made an effort to see what new IM forums have been popping up over the last 5 years.

Anyways, little about me. I have been involved in AM and SEO since 2008. I hope to contribute and help out sharing some of my mistakes and successes over the years.

I recognize a ton of guys here from WickedFire which is great to see. It's a nice surprise to see all the familiar faces.
 
Welcome aboard. What kind of projects have you pursued in your time in the business?

I'm more of an authority site kind of guy, myself. Spent time early on around the same early time period you're talking building a lot of high quality EMD sites only to realize I couldn't scale high quality link building. Made some good cash with spamming them but the first Penguin ate them alive. Went to authority sites after that, sold one and some other projects, and have been cranking at my main project ever since.
 
That's a great question... wow a long stroll down memory lane...I've literally been all over the place...warning this might be a little bit of a ramble...

I started off helping my father rank his personal financial website using solely Paul & Angela links. I remember the day I saw the site on page 1..I took a screenshot and shared it with a few friends, I thought I was some SEO guru wizard lol. Oh how easy it was back then.

After that, I too, started to dip into EMD niche - longtail micro keywords to be specific. It was super easy to get them ranked and I used one of those warrior forum template courses. I forget the fellow who sold them. I probably had about 30 before Google released one the the major updates and completely cleaned me out.

Fast forward six months and I created my very first mid sized affiliate site. I had around 500 products listed, all added by hand of course.. took me about 2 weeks to properly setup using Joomla. I thought that was "hard work" ha...

After feeling quite devastated about my EMD "empire" being wiped out overnight I decided I wasn't going to play by Googles rules anymore. I studied long and hard how to automate my entire link building process at scale because creating Paul & Angela style links by hand would take forever. The solution: Xrumer :smile:

Boy, did it work well! I had nearly every single keyword ranking top 3 with literally no effort. Pages didn't even have unique content. Easiest money I had ever made online. But that too ended almost instantly when penguin hit.

From there on (2010-2017) I been mainly focusing on freelancing SEO gigs for fellow webmasters - specifically PBNs - with many side projects, that never seem to last. I've had some good, and very bad partners/projects over the years it's all been a learning process.

More recently I have taken things more seriously by actually creating a brand and forming a new partnership. I have created and optimized a series of products that competitors have trouble matching and have tried hard to focus on customer feedback. This has yielded in some fantastic long-term big brand clients.

I plan to make some big moves in 2018 by really expanding my agency and growing some solid relationships in the industry.
 
Holy SHIT!!! This is some epic stuff!

I feel for you @Focused , I'm very much in a similar mindset to you, even with the coding bit. I started a site, got around 80 posts up, almost 3 months old, made $8 so far.

I was on Reddit and some guy has posted about his site which he spent a shit load of money on content, then it got hit by an algo update, money......goneski, just like that!

He actually revealed the site too, just another poor Amazon review site, they are ten a penny and many are still ranking. Everyone writing about 'best this for that' keywords. Product lists, image and a paragraph or two, no value in them really, and definitely a target of Google.

I agree with the other commenters here, we just gotta set our targets higher and go for something that offers real value somewhere along the line. Authority sites are cool, but that shit takes some serious time and to be honest, although I may have the ability to write some of the best content on the web, I just don't seem to be able to summon the enthusiasm to right epic shit about shit that I'm really not interested in. Maybe some people can.

And I'm checking my GA 47 times a day to see if Mr G is giving me any love. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. Or perhaps he will giveth, and then taketh away :-)

I'm kinda at something of a crossroads, a lot of it due to the honest and excellent posts on this forum which I only recently discovered. It's making me see that the path I am on might not be the one I should be on. Which stirs up all sorts of feelings that make me somewhat uncomfortable.

I really want a system where I can bring traffic to my site/products on a whim, and organic traffic isn't that for sure.

Btw, what do you guys think of the sites that Ryan Deiss builds, and the methods he uses?

Almost entirely content curation, and although I know some of those sites rank highly now for competitive keywords, I think their initial traffic was from FB ads.

He does pretty well, wonder when the content curation craze will die, not sure of the value there, not for me personally anyway

Good luck with it all, hope you find some direction and excitement for your journey.
 
I'm Will

I found this site a couple of days ago, and am so happy that I did.
So far I have been reading through the threads.
I would say that my subject knowledge is just above zero.
So Step 1 is to follow along with the Digital Strategy Crash Course.

All The Best
 
Welcome to the forum. You're right, the best place to start is the Crash Course. I'm sure you'd also get a kick out of the Bragging Thread if you've not skimmed through it. Let us know when you're ready to start taking action. We're all here to help and support and learn from you as well. Thanks for joining.
 
Welcome to the forum Will. Everyone on this forum started at the stage you are at now, it may seem overwhelming but you are in the right place to learn everything you need to know!
 
YEPPPP... You read that right. I'm a goddamn addict.

I'm addicted to laziness and procrastination which I love so much. I have so much passion to go on a 3 hour apartment cleaning routine, as long as it keeps me from doing the 30 mins job that needs to be finished to see results in my business. It's always shocking to me when I finally get to do that "3 months old" thing on my to do list and find out that it only needed a few minutes to a couple of hours only of time for f... sake....

I also have a bit of "shiny object" syndrome and even though I no longer horde Internet marketing softwares/ebooks/courses etc. on my hard drive, I find myself moving from one strategy to another.

The funny thing about this all is that I KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO TO SUCCEED, so why am I not doing it????

In a bid to introduce myself to my new found online home, please forgive me if I now go into a LONG boring spill about my online history. My name is Rob(erto) and I'm from Italy (even though I now hop and live around Europe). I am 33 and for some youngsters, I could be considered an old timer in the internet marketing world.

My journey to financial independence started over 10 years ago when I found a job ad in the local papers promising "few hours of work from home". I attended an interview in an hotel which turned out to be an Herbalife meeting. I had just finished a hard day of work at my local factory and ending it in a fine hotel with all these cool looking "enthusiastic people" made me feel like that was where I wanted to be. All these young people giving testimonials of how much money they made that month selling products etc. pumped me up and I signed up that night. I found out later how "realistic" those testimonials were when I had to rehease how to say them at meetings too.

Fast forward a few months and I was a bonafide road traveller and door to door seller. Attending meetings 60 miles (to and fro) from home once a week, spending all my earnings on retreats and trainings. I was doing product demonstrations in peoples homes, and collecting the names of their friends to go and do demonstrations to. I regularly sold products at these demonstrations and the money will go right to fuelling the car or food or bills. It was a hard time but the skills I gaines selling door to door I won't trade fore anything else.

After a few years of doing this, I the bright idea that, IF ONLY I WENT FULL TIME WITH THIS BUSINESS, I surely would be able to get even more product demonstrations set up, that should mean more income right???

I walked into my boss’s office to quit. He was surprised and told me he was relieved, he didn’t know how to tell me I was going to be let go because of low work load. I left and went home feeling like a full time work from home free man.

Fast forward a year and this Herbalife thing wasn’t going too well. I was selling but I was not making full time income. Compounded by the fact that I had to spend 2/3 of the income on meetings, travelling and trainings. I needed a "real" job and soon found one at another local factory. My Herbalife business was now part time once again.

Now this factory (textile printing) was a place filled up with depressing negative people destined to work there all their life. I did 3 shifts which included graveyard. All I thought was about getting the hell out of there. I looked again online for a way out and found "MLM Traffic Formula" by Mike Dillard, Tom Bell, Tim Erway.

I believed that if I could take my Herbalife business online, I could generate leads and sell them my products without having to travel. These guys were responsible for me starting an online business so I am grateful to them. Speaking about paid traffic, something that Tom Bell said in that course stuck with me ever since. If you have a money making machine making you 2 dollars everytime you put in 1, how many times would you put money back in?

With the knowledge gained from that course registered my first domain in 2007. It was about weight loss (in Italian) and I sold an ebook for 20$ which was basically a pitch my Herbalife weight loss products. I believe I sold maybe 20 eBooks only over the lifespan of the domain. Thanks to Perry Marshall I dabbled into AdWords to push traffic to the site,
but with little success. There just wasn’t enough online traffic even for the weight loss niche in Italy back then and I needed something more if I was to ever leave my job.

Enter Affiliate Marketing.

So while looking for being online I got to know Peter Drew. An online marketer from Australia. He really showed some cool stuff. He had these suite of software that could generate many pages on BlogSpot, Squidoo, Hubpages etc. He would make these pages using the names of affiliate marketing products that were about to launch and carpet the first page of google with these sites. People usually search for these product names and if you could rank for them, you could intercept them and get them to buy through your affiliate link.

So instead of using these web 2.0 sites, I decided toown my own review domain which I registered in 2008. I was now in the launch jacking business. At one time, my product review blog was ranking on the lower half of the first page for "Affiliate marketing" alongside, Commission Juction and Clickbank. I never really got much traffic for that KW though, it was still early days and for me mostly bragging rights.

I have to thank Peter Drew and will be forever grateful to him for being the one to point me to the strategy that got me my first real income online. The income started to come in just in time because I lost my job at the textile factory due to non renewal of contract. I got to receive real Clickbank checks from the US delivered to my Italian tiny village. My mom could now touch and feel the result of all those hard long nights working online even when I had to go to the factory job in the morning. Those checks soon became bank transfers set up specifically for me as Italy wasn’t on the list of direct transfer countries back then. Yep, I was making MONEYYYYYY.

Being very aggressive with link building, it came as no surprise that I got wiped out by first by Panda. It was 2011-ish and my 100-300$ per day review site was gone. This took me on a 1-2 year depression spell and my girlfriend supported me financially that time for which I am grateful. This, I believe is the root of my “procrastinative” nature as I felt totally paralyzed. After the first Google penalty hit, I adjusted and never got hit by any subsequent penalty, but I was never able to build a stable income. I kept jumping from one thing to the other with no real success.

...2013/2014, enter Alex Becker. Now this was a guy that I found online and started following. He made videos from his bedroom (I later found out he had his mattress on the floor behind him) and showed how he was ranking his sites for stuff without any content, just by the power of high pr domains. I was amazed. He showed his money sites, PBN domains etc. Nobody did that.

I joined his forum and started seriously building my PBN. I think this is the only skill I have really taken to the MAX. I provided links to some seo agency guys on Beckers forum for a couple of years. It’s funny that for a few hundred bucks per month, I was powering the rankings that those seo guys charged 1000s of dollars to clients for. I kept my link building conservative and the clients never got penalized. I am still tracking some rankings that go back all the way to 2014 with no penalties. That ranking data is the only reason I kept the serpfox account all these years.

So finally to round up this long ass boring write-up. I am now a married family man and these days I mostly make a living selling stuff online on amazon Europe. No FBA in the EU country I live in now so I make the 10 mins walk to the post office every day. Amazon has provided a stable comfortable living for my family while nursing my baby girl these last 2 years. It is thanks to Internet Marketing that I am able to be present with her EVERYDAY. She has now started going to kindergarten and I now finally have the time to pour my soul back into Internet Marketing.

My goal is to reinvest what I can from my amazon earnings into building solid assets online and I believe this is how to secure my future. I still get little checks from clickbank for work done years ago.

So what of my addiction??? Well I am going to beat it. You bet I am going to. I said to myself I am going to make this huge introduction post today and I DID.

Of course laziness and procrastination are never going to fully go away, but I am going to make sure I hold myself accountable. This is where BuilderSociety comes in.

I have never seen such a forum where everyone take care of one another like here. All members, big or small pulling each other up. It's truly amazing to see. So in this incredibly lonely world online, I hope to be accepted into your community.

I have little to offer except all of the experience I have accumulated being self-employed online all this time. Any way I can help out here I will gladly do. I also intend to use the forum to post of my progress so as to keep myself honest and accountable to my work. In all these years I have seen people start from scratch and blow up to become mega successes. For some reason I have always remained in my 'ok' comfort zone, scraping up leftovers.

The time has come to finally push for the summit.

Please feel free to ask if you have any questions about my above written post. Compressing more than 10 years of history into 1 single post means I may have left out so much stuff which may or may not ccause confusion. Spelling and grammar are also going to be a problem so bear with me.

Looking forward to my time here on BuSo.

Thanks and take care pals.

Rob
 
The funny thing about this all is that I KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO TO SUCCEED, so why am I not doing it????
Self-sabotage is a bitch. I'm guilty. I wrote quite a bit about this kind of thing and the ways that we do it. It usually all centers around fear of the responsibility of succeeding and fear of loss of wasted time and resources once you fail.

I needed a "real" job and soon found one at another local factory.
I turned down a "nice" job to do the same, working a low key factory job while getting my head together post-college and figuring out what I wanted out of life versus what others were expecting of me.

This was a good time for me, being around very down to earth people without huge aspirations, still struggling to climb up to a normal baseline or trying to maintain it once they reached it. It helped me relax, because they didn't expect the universe of me. We were all neutral and in it together, unlike the outside bystanders of my life (family and extended family) who did covertly essentially demanded I conquer life for them where they failed or didn't want to. Stressful shit, mayne!

Now this factory (textile printing)
Are you my twin? I did offset printing for a few years in that "get myself together" phase.

This took me on a 1-2 year depression spell
I've been destroyed by Google twice like that, absolutely wiped out. The first time was the first round of Penguin.

The second was an event I knew would come at some point, because I was selling links on a giant PBN I was building. I made it last longer than it should being vigilant about 404-ing pages that people spammed and saying 'no' to a lot of potential buyers, but ultimately I couldn't defend from someone getting into the network with a clean site and then turning it into a dirty site later and combining my links with other PBN's that were getting exposed left and right. I even had a couple idiots spam their Scrapebox and Xrumer links sitewide at my sites. I should have been selling to agencies and their clients instead of knuckleheads like us on forums. Oh well. I'm glad to be rid of that whole scene.

Once that gave me an out and I refunded everyone who had bought in the most recent X months, I walked away from spam and blackhat style link building forever.

Ended up building and liquidating my first real authority site after that and upped the ante and have been chugging away at the next main project ever since. Nothing is better than not having to freak about Google updates. Not having SEO as you only or even main mode of attack is so nice. I'd love to get into PPC deeper eventually. That's like turning on the firehose if you have the money to ride it out till you're optimized.

I hope to be accepted into your community.
We welcome you with open arms and open legs... I mean, wait, what? :D

Thanks for such a great introduction. I look forward to reading about your progress and conversing with you around the forum as time goes by. We're all gonna make it!
 
Thanks for your warm "very open" welcome Ryuzaki :smile:. I have read your awesome post and learnt a lot.

Yeah I had a lot of those "2 tier" idiots spamming my precious edu backlinked domains in a bid to get the most out the links. One of them is currently a "top award winning seo" that ended up not paying me for the last 6 months of his deal and I have seriouly restrained myself from 301-ing that spammed link page back to his website.

Like you, I am focusing on building solid online assets and I am digesting all the content relevant to my goal on this forum.

Thanks again.

Rob
 
Thank you so much Ryuzaki, this means so much to mee.

I'm still wrapping my head around the traffic leak concept and have been applying it on my site for a while. I'll definitely start a new thread in the Laboratory once I have a new site as I'm not that confident in this one. It's too niched down.
 
Much respect to @eliquid who took his time to steer you off a landmine almost everyone falls into

From agressively failing, quitting, reading, testing and all i have come to realize its too easy

The quickest way to hit huge income level is to just latch on to a huge trend (habit) that you notice, humans are difficult(more like impossible) to change afterall why not take advantage of what they already do?

MJ Demarco talked about N-eed E-ntry C-ontrol T-ime S-cale

Everyone is doing IM , using the concept of authority sites, writing content, and monetizing via adsense which makes it harder over time

I would suggest you should start living and observing your environment

as an example coding is cool these days instead of dissing your developer friends who go to every conference and have python, nodejs stickers plastered on their laptops and wear google developer shirts how about you start something like devswag.com and call it stickergang.com and start distributing watermarked memes kinda like the beard trend and join all these programming groups

The community is more likely to share vs click bait headlines and when you go to conferences to promote they probably wont even see you as a for profit business just some guy been cool

or maybe sell those cool developer shirts on shopify, you could even focus on mostly indian computer geeks (NB: sell doesnt mean ecommerce )

you might be just one out of ten people doing the same thing vs one out of ten thousand people and your chances will just be better even if you suck by sheer laws of probability

we are always part of these cliques and we don't even notice, heck the im community is a clique, sell them something they will pay for (@eliquid is selling them a SaaS :D)

the barriers there will be that
not everyone is intimately familiar with the developer community
not everyone can design
not everyone can get a stripe account

or maybe even start an offline business that you can promote online, most online folks stay online and most offline folks stay offline, you could be the Avatar... bridge between both worlds

and ofcourse dont go do all that without market research, SEOs call it keyword research!

don't forget to buy some quora & reddit ads to it :wink:
 
Hello, all. I've been here already for a few weeks but I have only found out about this Intro section now.

I have had moderate success in IM in 2009-10, where I had an Amazon site making me around $300/month. I didn't know what I was doing and what it took to get me there. (Today I know it was my EMD.org plus a few links.) I was also very dumb at the time, so instead of keeping the site alive, I let it go.

What also didn't help was that I also had no way to withdraw the Amazon funds -- I'm not American and I didn't know about Payoneer at the time. Cashing a check where I lived was too complicated as well.

Anyways, fast forward a few years, and here I am, the IM bug has always been inside me, ever since I saw a guy traveling world on "passive income", which was a dream come true for me at the time.

I restarted a new site. In the past two months, what I noticed is that working today is much harder than a years ago, which only makes me want to punch myself harder. But the second best time to start is today, or something like that, right? Lesson learned, no more quitting this time around, especially because I am doing this with "rest of my life" on my mind.

Today I have € 0.07 in my wallet, plus three empty bank accounts. I have been living like that for the past few years, which is why I had to let go of that site in the first place, and I am tired of all this. I don't have my ego tied to having lotsa monies, but I am tired of counting pennies to make ends meet.

The main difference I see today is that I know what it takes to make it, namely: elbow grease, thinking outside the box, and motivation to improve my own life.

It isn't Thanksgiving yet, but I like to thank you all for sharing your knowledge here, especially considering it is an open forum. I hope I can contribute with my own successes very soon. Here's to a great, productive, and profitable week for all of us.
 
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